I noticed that the photo that I posted is not available..
I'll try again... Attachments:.
Here's another one. Both you see here were taken with my Canon Rebel XT with ISO 1600.
And, with my Canon 50mm 1.4 lense. But, I had to get very close up in order to get this shot!..
Thats why I'd like to get another lense that allow me to take this same shot, but only.
From way back, instead of my going up in front of the performer, and annoying some folks. And, here's another shot of my daughter, shot during the same night.. Attachments:.
I notice that in this form, the picture has much more "noise" that what I get on my iphoto editing system. My camera, Canon Rebel XT, at ISO 1600 is really not that bad, and I can easily accept these shots you see here. "because" I simply can't do any better. Again, these shots here were taken with Canon 50mm 1.4 lense. I'd love to buy a lense that let me get much closer, without moving closer.
Any suggestions?.. thanks..
Grumpy, Why not try a longer prime lens, rather than a heavy, fast zoom? The Canon 135 mm f/2.0 lens is still pretty fast, and sells new for under nine hundred Dollars. It's a very sharp lens to boot. The Canon 85 mm f/1.8 is a tad faster, much lighter, and much cheaper (just a few Dollars more than your 50 f/1.4). The 85 f/1.8 also takes supurb photos. Either of these lenses would serve you well for the type of photography that you enjoy, and both would fill out your ability to get quality shots from any seating row. At the extreme prime end, there is the 85 f/1.2L II.
Then again, for a small hit in lens speed, you can buy both the 85 f/1.8, and the 135 f/2.0, and keep about $600 in your wallet compared to the price of the 85 f/1.2 lens. As far as zoom lenses go, there isn't much to suit you. The closest would be the 70-200 f/2.8L IS lens. All the other f/2.8 zoom offerings are too short for the situation you describe, and even the 70-200 is big, heavy, expensive, and really too slow for what you need at f/2.8. One exception would be using a zoom for existing light work in a home setting, where the lighting is somewhat better than a theater, and the subjects tend to be closer.
I use one on my 30D, and it has become my favorite "walkaround lens". In the theater though, stick to the fast primes. Anyway, that's my advice. Your current 50 f/1.4, with the addition of the 85 f/1.8, and/or the 135 f/2 will get the job done in fine fashion on a Rebel body. Jim K...
Jim, thanks for your quick reply to my dilemma.
And, most of all, thanks for your most informative, concise, and to the point reply..
Most replys just go on and on and on, and saying not much. Attached, is a shot of what I'm talking about. Was taken with my Rebel XT and with.
The Canon 50mm 1.4. I had to get quite close to get the shot.That's why I'd like to.
Get a lense which would let me get the same shot, but not having to get that close.
Like, perhaps in the "middle" of the theater, or even in the rear of the theater. I shot this with ISO 1600, and although there's noise, I'm happy with it, because,.
I've "captured the momentf", and in this case, it's my daughter, performing in NYC. Your reply was most appreciated, and I'm now checking out the lenses that.
You recommended.. Thanks so much. Sal Pedi Attachments:.
Sal, I also like the artistic use of "grain" in stage photography. Of course, having a photogenic subject that *just happens* to be your daughter is a real treatI have no doubt that the two reasonably priced prime lenses I mentioned will knock your socks off when you take them on a theater shoot for the first time. Buy either one first, and it won't be long before you decide that you have to own both. A cheap fishing vest is a comfortable way to carry extra lenses in a theater setting. If style matters, you can always buy an expensive photographers fishing vestNo matter what glass you end up buying for your XT, I look forward to viewing more of your theater pics. Have fun! Jim K...
Jim, Before I buy either or, the Canon's 85mm 1.8, or the 135 f2, that you suggested, will either of these lenses allow me to shoot from some spot in the rear of the theater BETTER than my 50 1.4 Canon? The 135 f2, is more money, but probably the way to go.... If you say that the 85 1.8 will allow me to do that, I'll check it out at B&H, NYC. I've attached another shot taken with my Rebel XT,taken at the same time as the previous shot.
No flash of course......ISO 1600....Aperture Priority....exposure Bias -2.0.... 1/100..at 5.6... I'm thinking of also buying the Canon 30D which I believe you said you own.
The 30D is cabable of going up to ISO 3200 in the Custom Mode, and I've read only.
Great stuff about that camera. Sal Pedi Attachments:.
Sal, Both lenses will offer you better framing than the 50 f/1.4 from the back of the theater, compared to cropping an image taken with the 50 f/1.4 lens. Both offer very sharp optics, and all around great performance. The loss in lens speed with these two lenses is not dramatic if you are happy with high ISO imaging (which you are). The 85 f/1.8 is smaller and lighter than the 135, and is easier to take sharp handheld shots with at any given shutter speed. It also offers significantly more reach over the 50 mm lens, and will offer you more everyday utility than the 135 mm lens. You might enjoy getting the 85 mm lens first.
As for the 30D, there are all kinds of opinions about this body, that body, and on and on. I owned a 5D (just sold it), have daily access to a 20D, and now own 2 30D's. I like the 30D so much that I can't stand to be without it. The 20D is a fine camera, but the 30D is so much more in a variety of subtle ways. The 5D is also nice, but the 30D ended up being my favorite for most situations.
The 30D offers very low noise, and shots taken at ISO 3200 with the 85 f/1.8 will really please you. A quick pass through a good software package like DxO will produce results that will amaze you. I mentioned that I now have 2 30D bodies. I do some wedding and commercial work, and having two bodies available helps keep me focused on my work, and not sweating equipment failure (never had a major failure, but Murphy's law applies). After I sold the 5D, I bought a backup 30D.
If you buy a 30D body, and one or more other products on the list before then, you will save serious cash. For example, the 30D is already discounted to around $1,000 on the net, and the 85 f/1.8 lens costs under $400. Buying both before 1/13/2007 will qualify you for double rebates. That adds up to getting a check in the mail for $280! It's like buying the body, and getting the lens for $100. The 135 f/2.0 lens comes with a $50 rebate, and if you buy it before 1/13/2007, and have already bought other qualifying products (like the 30D, or 85 f/1.8), the rebate doubles to $100! This is the time of year when I buy new Canon products if I can wait.
The street prices are down now, and the rebates are high. If you are really considering a 30D body and a lens or two, make your best deal before 1/13/2007, and get some serious cash back. By the way, you don't have to buy everything at once, nor from the same dealer. Just buy it all before 1/13/2007. You can download the rebate form from the Canon site, or from a dealer like Beach Camera for a list of qualifying products.
It will take some time to learn all of the features of the 30D, but if you can justify the expense, I'm sure that it will please you for years to come. It's a very solid and stable product. Jim K...