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Best inexpensive image editor for moderately advanced beginner
I was hoping I could get some input on whether Elements is king, or if Microsofts upgrade of Digital Image Suite 2006 is worthwhile, or any other image editor under $100. I have tried to download Gimp and failed abysmally 3 times, so perhaps my computer skills leave something to be desired. I used to use Picasa but I am looking for a bit more functionality. I am going to be doing mostly editing for color balance, some use of the lasso function to lighten or darken parts of the foto, some sharpening, a lot of cropping and rotating..

I searched for this subject and the best answers were from 2003 so I thought a new look at it might be helpful.Thank you for any ideas!Nikon D-50 and Olympus C-750 user..

Comments (21)

I would check out the demo versions of Elements and Paint Shop Pro and make up your own mind as to which you like better...

Comment #1

The good thing about Elements is that it puts you right at home if you will ever switch to the real Photoshop. As you knew already, Photoshop is the undisputed king in image editing..

Personally I started out with Paint Shop Pro and then switched to Photoshop. A real pain..

I never used Elements, although people said that it has really good value because it has many of the most useful features of Photoshop..

Conchita wrote:.

I would check out the demo versions of Elements and Paint Shop Proand make up your own mind as to which you like better...

Comment #2

You might also want to try Gimp. It does most of what Photoshop does, and it is completely free. You can download it here:http://www.gimp.org/.

Joel Orlinsky.

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Comment #3

The big advbantage of Elements is that it is so popular lots of books, lessons in magazines, etc..

BAK..

Comment #4

Look around for used version of Photoshop (CS, CS2, CS3). With some bargaining and luck you should be able to find one. Its well worth it..

Yes, I do have a camera...

Comment #5

Consider this another vote for Elements..

But my main reason for replying was to let you know that I am struggling with the term "moderately advanced beginner". But that is my problem..

Have a good day!Respectfully,Mike SneddonMattoon, IL USA..

Comment #6

I used MS Digital Image Suite for a couple of years. I read MS was discontinuing it, so when I got my new laptop (w/ Vista Home Premium) I bought Photoshop Elements 5.0.2 (Vista version). I have been really pleased with the results. Its does a lot more stuff than MSDI and has been fun learning. There is a lot of stuff online to help you out. I got a copy of "The Missing Manual" for PSE5 from Amazon. Its a nice big fat book that explains how to do a bunch of stuff that you'd be searching the Help files forever for.Remember: no matter where you go, there you are...Len..

Comment #7

I'm using Elements 4 (I haven't seen a need to upgrade to 5 and I'll probably wait for 6)..

I haven't evaluated other products, I just went for the base version of the most popular software. And I'm happy with that choice - there's a lot of info and reference sources for Elements/Photoshop, and as far as I can tell Elements has most of the features you would need as an amateur..

In fact I'm not surprised that Adobe is offering cheap upgrades to CS3 for Elements users - I suspect they have shot themselves in the foot (for CS3 sales) by making Elements too good..

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Comment #8

In fact I'm not surprised that Adobe is offering cheap upgrades to CS3 for Elements users - I suspect they have shot themselves in the foot (for CS3 sales) by making Elements too good..

Well, it is a good program, but it's main purpose is to get you into the Adobe way. They've always offered that upgrade periodicaly, and I suspect they actually sell more copies of PS as a result of PE, really...

Comment #9

Are you using a version of Windows? If yes, then downloading the Gimp shouldn't pose a problem... You need 3 pieces.go here http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.htmland download the GTK+2 runtime element for your version of Windows.Also download the Gimp for Windows and the Help file..

You nust install the GTK+2 first, then the Gimp and then the Help. It's a very nice program and it's free..... But it doesn't have an interface like Photoshop or Paintshop so be prepared to learn .......

Comment #10

I think I am going to give Gimp one more try, I thought I only needed the GTK+2 and the Gimp download itself, which may explain why I couldn't get it to run at all..

Regardless of how Gimp works, tho, I have a feeling I will be buying some software soon, and this discussion will probably help me feel better about purchasing Elements. It isn't a big investment, but I truly dislike buying the same type of product twice, trying to find one that works better....

Measure twice, saw once, my Dad always said..

Nikon D-50 and Olympus C-750 user..

Comment #11

Elements is good capable software. I'd recommend also getting the books by Brundage and/or Kelby to go along with it...

Comment #12

My vote goes for Paint Shop Pro which is full photoshop clone.My fotoblog: http://www.howtoshot.com/My fotoblog (czech): http://fotaky.xf.cz/My photos (leazy to update anyway): http://gady.idomena.cz/..

Comment #13

Lightroom is popular (especially for raw shooters) although it doesn't have extensive retouching features. but you could do much of your work in lightroom and then escape to photoshop as needed..

The version of elements I have for windows has an uploader/organizer as well as editing capability...

Comment #14

These three below are all Free and are very good..

They all work with Raw images and allow you to save as jpg, leaving the original Raw image unchanged!Picasa2 also works with jpg's as well as Raw/NEF images..

Picasa2 -best overall for browsing and ediding many images in a short time.RawShootes Essentials-has the most control and featuresRaw Therapee-good but takes longer tofigure out,but still good!.

Neat Image is free and is a dedicated noise removal program!Artist Eyes..

Comment #15

My vote goes for Elements. However if you'd like a fairly sophiticated program that is free, try PhotoFiltre. It' doesn't support layers but the pro version does..

Http://photofiltre.free.fr/frames_en.htm.

Gail ~ http://www.pbase.com/gailbMy digital camera BLOGs: Pany TZ3, Canon SD700, A570 & S2, Nikon 5400http://www.digicamhelp.com/camera-logs/index.php..

Comment #16

Try UFRaw - only handles RAW type data..

Http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/.

Or Rawtherapee - which handles TIFs and JPGs as well.....

Http://www.rawtherapee.com/..

Comment #17

Peter Nelson wrote:.

RawShooter Essentials-has the most control and features.

Unfortunately RSE was bought out and buried by Adobe - there has been no development for some time and consequently there is no support, and never will be, for any cameras launched in the last year or so...

Comment #18

Rolf wrote:.

It is hard to beat Photo Brush for just $45.00. And upgrades are also most reasonable. I have newer found anything I couldn't do with it.If you don't believe it, just download it and try it! (30 day trial)http://www.mediachance.com/pbrush/.

MarkBeards wrote:.

I was hoping I could get some input on whether Elements is king, orif Microsofts upgrade of Digital Image Suite 2006 is worthwhile, orany other image editor under $100. I have tried to download Gimp andfailed abysmally 3 times, so perhaps my computer skills leavesomething to be desired. I used to use Picasa but I am looking for abit more functionality. I am going to be doing mostly editing forcolor balance, some use of the lasso function to lighten or darkenparts of the foto, some sharpening, a lot of cropping and rotating.I searched for this subject and the best answers were from 2003 so Ithought a new look at it might be helpful.Thank you for any ideas!Nikon D-50 and Olympus C-750 user..

Comment #19

Steve Balcombe wrote:.

Peter Nelson wrote:.

RawShooter Essentials-has the most control and features.

Unfortunately RSE was bought out and buried by Adobe - there has beenno development for some time and consequently there is no support,and never will be, for any cameras launched in the last year or so..

Steve,I am answering the Op question here and his DSLR is a Nikon D50..

Again, if the OP were to download RawShooters Essentials he would have a powerfull and Free Raw converter/editor.Artist Eyes..

Comment #20

I have Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro, but use Elements more often for general use..

The one program that I really like for viewing (not for editing) is Faststone Image Viewer.Free and a marvelous little program.http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm..

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