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Are novice photogs being hustled by camera companies?
I just downloaded from this site the same sample test image for the D40 and D40x (assuming that controlled all the reasonable variables other than MPs), resized each to identical files sizes (app. 10x14") in PS3, took identical 100% crops and combined those into one image and printed on an Epson R1800. All viewers said they could see little difference in print quality, i.e., resolution and contrast..

It seems to me that the camera companies are hustling the novice photographers with the MP issue. And pixel peepers are playing into their hands..

It's all about output, and unless you're going to print larger than 11x14", there is no significant qualitative output difference between 6 and 10mp... but there is a bottom-line difference for the Nikon/Canons/Olympus etc. of the world.Brian..

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BLawson wrote:.

It seems to me that the camera companies are hustling the novicephotographers with the MP issue. And pixel peepers are playing intotheir hands..

Or, are camera companies just responding to consumers that demanded more-and-more megapixels. I don't know if you've noticed, but the mega-pixel war is slowing down. Companies are going for quality over quantity.

It's all about output, and unless you're going to print larger than11x14", there is no significant qualitative output differencebetween 6 and 10mp....

This is true, except when you are talking about cropping ability..

I shoot dance competitions (Jazz, Ballet, Tap, etc.) With my D70 6MP sensor, I was constantly switching between horizontal & vertical orientation. Horizontal for a group shot, or a soloist about to leap. Vertical for a close-up of a soloist, or a person within a group. Now with a 12.2 MP sensor, I can just leave the camera in the horizontal, zoom-in moderately for a solo shot, then confidently crop it back to a vertical print. If I am caught off-guard, it is much easier to zoom-back to capture a leap, than it is to rotate the camera, possibly leading to tilted horizons..

Warm regards,DOF..

Comment #1

Look at what the average joe buys. He doesn't know what makes a good picture but bigger numbers sound more impressive, without out a lot of research thats about all he has to go on The average joe accounts for a large market segment, if joe is gonna buy brand A because it has 17megapixels brand B better have 17megapixels in it's similiar priced product or no one will buy it. Then brand A wants a market advantage so they release a 18 megapixel camera and everyone rushes out to buy it. Meanwhile joe thinks he's getting the best pictures his money will buy, until next year when the 19megapixel camera comes out that joe has to get..

Its a cycle that got started back when digital cameras became affordable to the average person and the results were noticeable...

Comment #2

The evolution of the digital cameras is very much like the way our children grew :up - sideways - up - sideways - up etc. etc.The cameras go : MP - quality - MP - quality - MP - etc. etc..

With a little bit of luck it will all balance out in a few years and we will see cameras which deliver quality output...

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BLawson wrote:.

Unless you're going to print larger than11x14", there is no significant qualitative output difference.

- Well, you may want to crop and/or to print larger size one fine day. Quality doesn't hurt..

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BLawson wrote:.

It seems to me that the camera companies are hustling the novicephotographers with the MP issue. And pixel peepers are playing intotheir hands..

In my opinion& the self-proclaimed digital photography cognoscenti (meaning those of us in these forums) tend to hold to one of two opposing philosophies:1) when I release the shutter, I'm capturing an image; or2) when I release the shutter, I'm capturing data..

Data capturers want every bit of data that they can get. They shoot Raw because it's demonstrably superior to JPEG in terms of data quantity. They store every photo they ever shot on multiple backups, because you just never know what data you might need someday..

Image capturers don't have any use for data that doesn't make a picture visibly better. They may shoot Raw for it's flexibility, or they may shoot JPEG. They store and back up photos that they want to keep, but often discard the photos that didn't work..

It's all about output.

You're clearly in the "capturing an image" camp. (As am I.).

There is no significant qualitative output difference between 6 and 10mp....

So from your example, image capturers will be fine with the D40. Data capturers will want the D40x. Nikon sells both...

Comment #5

I recently upgraded to a D80 from a D70, and I have to admit the apparent improvement in depth, detail and sharpness on my 24" iMac monitor nearly knocked me off my chair..

But then again I know it isn't just about MPs. I have gotten better at composition and exposure control. An indoor shot that needs ISO1600 and intentional underexposure is going to be a grainy nightmare at 6.1 and 10.2 MP..

I don't have a D40x (try to find one in the Toronto area!) but I do have a D40 too and even though it is the same MPs as the D70 I find that some pics look better with the D40, some with the D70. It has to do with my skill at the moment and the how flexible I need the camera to be. In general the D70 is closer in feature set to the D80 than the D40, so I find the older camera a little more flexible..

My better lenses make the most of the fewer megapixels. I recently got a nice Sigma 70mm f/2.8 prime lens that takes positively gorgeous pictures on D40 and D80..

My D40, D70 and D80 pictures are catalogued on my computer according to subject matter, and are mixed up according to camera. I usually can't tell which camera was used just by looking. I either have to rely on my memory or check the metadata, and sometimes I am surprised to see some of my crispest favourites were taken on the humble D40 and barely salvageable noisy underexposed trainwrecks were taken with the D80..

I like having more data for cropping, etc., and finally switching to RAW changed the quality of my images for the better. But I still believe that you can get great pics with the 6.1 MPs of the D40 and wonderful D70. There are many other factors at play..

Les..

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