No regrets... Bought a Sony H2 in October of last year and out-grew it by May. Went with a Nikon D80 and very happy with it. The Sony takes great pictures, but not having an optical viewfinder was a real down side for me. I also did not like how difficult it was to change settings (lots of drill down menus...) The Nikon has capability well outside of mine, so I have a lot to learn. And learning how to take great photos is really what it is all about.....
There have been people who purchased traditional DSLRs and then been disappointed to find out that they didn't support video or live view on an LCD, because they didn't do enough research to notice even that not particularly obscure difference. Others buy 'em expecting to get better pictures while leaving them on permanently on AUTO, without intending to learn about exposure, depth of field, or so forth. This can yield mixed results depending on what they had in mind as 'better'. Ordering sight-unseen also has it's risks, since if you don't like the ergonomics.....
You obviously looked at the S6500. What did you not like about it? No image stabilisation? And, God forbid, it uses an xD card!.
There may be faster bridge-cams but there is no better for IQ..
Also, unless you spend money on a decent lens for your DSLR the results may be dissapointing. Some entry level DSLRs have mediocre kit (zoom) lenses..
Hope this helps...
Oh I'm loving the idea of the 6500 (and amm really tempted to just go get it)and xd cards do not worry me (having 2 fuji's already) but my concern is that having the s5600 and the 6500 might not be a big enough jump up. Would I be better in the long run going to a dslr? decisions decisions.....enthusiastic novice..
What's better on the S6500.
1. Manual zoom ring instead of fiddly rocker switch.2. The 6th generation 6.3 MP sensor - lower noise, better IQ3. Bigger and brighter LCD4. Face detection - although I honestly haven't used it!5. More of an SLR feel.
Need any more than that?.
I (partly) regret getting a DSLR. Not for the usual reasons, like no live view, no auto stuff, etc etc. I love looking through a viewfinder and also love using full manual, nikon cls, etc etc..
But I'd prefer to use a P5000. I honestly feel like a poser walking around with an expensive camera. That's the one and only problem I have with a DSLR..
But, for you, I'd say if you have the money, get a DSLR. Just read the manual (a few times) and your good to go...
I'm a proud owner of NIKON D40 (6MP). I will be purchasing more lenses in the near future to further my photography skills..
Jump on the bandwagon while it's COOL!!..
Only insofar as going from carrying a camera worth a couple of hundred that fits in my pocket and that I wouldn't get stressed about if I dropped it, to carrying 2kg of equipment costing a grand. If I'm outdoors every drop of rain brings on a panic attack. If I'm indoors say at a wedding, I daren't put it on the table in case someone knocks their glass of wine over it. If I'm travelling it feels like it weighs a ton. Yes, there are cons too. Is it worth the hassle of the cost and equipment for good, low-noise, low light shots and smaller depth of field for portraits etc with out-of focus backgrounds, the option of changing lenses, and real viewfinder, which to my mind are the key advantages of a dslr. You decide...
I have a Fuji F20 and FujiS5600. I have been thinking of getting adslr and have read most of the posts regarding the best dslr to buyand also perhaps the best bridge instead of a dslr.My question is...has anyone regretted getting a dslr instead of oneof the better bridge cameras and if so, for what reason? (cost,weightetc etc) Or, was getting a dslr the best thing you have done?.
.. it would be to ensure that you research your choice *very* extensively and carefully. I think most posts I've seen on DPR with buyer's remorse are from people who bought on-line with undue haste and a model that was perhaps always going to be unsuitable for them..
The single biggest mistake I hear from people is that they never picked up the camera they want. I went to a DSLR when they first became affordable, and broke the 1K price barrier in 2003 and initially was pretty keen on a Fuji S1, it was way ahead in my pros and cons list. Until I held one. In my small hands it was just too large to be comfortable to use, buttons were just out of reach and it was heavy - much heavier than I'd expected - even though I knew how much more it was heavier than other models. I knew instantly it was wrong for me. So ensure you actually handle the models on your shortlist..
It's a big and expensive decision, so take it with care, that way you will get the camera that is right for *you* and *your* way of shooting, will be future proof to some degree - i.e. get a camera that slightly exceeds your needs so that you can grow into it. Only once the camera is actually limiting you, should you upgrade..
The F20 is a great pocketable supplement to a DSLR, so you have that for when a large camera is inappropriate. I use a Canon 20D and always carry an F11 with me - they make a good team..
I didn't regret the decision to go from a Fuji 602 to a Canon 300D for one minute, I had outgrown the Fuji and it was the limiting factor in what I wanted to do with a camera..
Download the user manuals for the models that interest you and ensure they address the things that interest you - a feature you like now that isn't in a future camera you own may become a regret and irritation. So it's up to you to put in the work to get it right before laying down the cash. Ask yourself exactly why you want to upgrade, what with your current model is the limitation and which new camera might address that best. Write lists of pros and cons and tick boxes..
Another factor that crops up regularly with new DSLR owners is that they require a bit more work - if you want to use it on auto and expect the higher price to yield instantly better results, you're likely to end up disappointed. One of my reasons to upgrade in 2003 was to have a RAW format and much less camera intervention - I wanted reliable quality data that was a good basis for me to then work with. If you don't like post processing, a bridge camera may be better for you. DSLRs do expect you to work a little harder to get the optimal results - both in managing the camera and settings appropriately before taking the shot and in handling the images to get the best from them..
It depends on how much effort you want to invest in your photography - you need to be an active partner with a DSLR, a bridge camera probably requires less intervention on your part. Only you can know why you want to upgrade and what needs are to be addressed by that process..
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I had a Fuji S5500, which I really liked, but bought myself a dslr because I found myself taking night shots (where an optical viewfinder really helps), and I wanted to be able to play around with depth of field in my photos..
I'm delighted that I did. Just the ability to play around with a 50mm prime was worth the money for me. My photography has improved greatly (maybe because I felt I had to justify the cost, so pushed myself to take it everywhere with me). I have absolutely no regrets about it..
The really nice thing is that the S5500 and S5600 are dslr-like enough for you to hit the ground running, if you do buy a dslr. I had been using my S5500 in manual mode with spot metering for a while, so the transition to the Nikon was totally painless (except the light meter works the opposite way 'round). The S5500 was a good camera, but I'd never go back...
Only insofar as going from carrying a camera worth a couple ofhundred that fits in my pocket and that I wouldn't get stressed aboutif I dropped it, to carrying 2kg of equipment costing a grand. If I'moutdoors every drop of rain brings on a panic attack. If I'm indoorssay at a wedding, I daren't put it on the table in case someoneknocks their glass of wine over it. If I'm travelling it feels likeit weighs a ton..
Wow... if carrying a DSLR around that much is such a worry, better sell it quick and get a disposable for 5..
Seriously though: 2kg of equipment costing a grand? The post is about someone who might get their first DSLR, which could easily be had for 300 (the Nikon D40 is currently 270 with a rebate) and weighs about 500g. As for rain and glasses of wine: that's what camera bags are for....
Where did you find a D40 at 270? I can only find it at 340 odds..
I'm on my second DSLR and my only regret is not getting one sooner...
Nikon D40 advertised at 330, with a 60 cashback offer..
Details of teh cashback offer:http://www.europe-nikon.com/home/en_GB/local_content/broad/328/1.html.
Nope. I have 3 and am contemplating a 4th...
I've not regretted getting my Olympus E500, although I still have a soft spot for my old film SLR, even though I don't use them!.
BUT, given the quality of compacts these days, one always forms part of my kit. I'm more likely to go out with the compact only, than the DSLR only. For me, size and a flip out and swivel screen is the main reason for the compact. (a Canon A640 in my case).
LeAnn, you have been given a lot of good advice here. All of it pretty sound. So I'll only add one bit that I find important..
Not only should you do extensive research into the various bodies out there, you should also give due thought to your shooting habits. In particular, what kind of lenses are you likely to need. Knowing that you can look at what lenses are available to meet those needs in each of the various camps..
Nikon and Canon are pretty much a wash in that area. They both have a great lineup of both affordable and pro level lenses. Nikon may have a bit of an edge in that they support older lenses better. (To my knowledge. Canon users may be able to correct me.) The other players (KM, Oly, etc.) don't generally have the pro level lenses except at prices even higher than the big two. If you can find any..
As to your original question, I started with a Fuji S602z and loved it. I literally wore it out. I bought a Nikon D70 about two years ago and have loved every minute of it. Yeah, I've spent a bunch of money on lenses and other gear, but I find it is worth it to me. This is my only hobby (or vice depending on how you look at it) so I can afford it. Mostly.
Right now I'm chomping at the bit to pick up another body. The D200 or D2Xs will probably be the one, but like a lot of people I'm waiting to see what Nikon comes out with in the next few weeks. But my lens needs are pretty much met for a long time to come.Chefziggyhttp://www.pbase.com/chefziggy/lecream.
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Hi to everyone. Many thanks for posting your opinions/stories/suggestions.It sure helps to hear from people who have "been there done that."I will think about it some more and not rush into anything.Cheersenthusiastic novice..
When I got my first digital camera back around '99 I loved not having to buy film but found myself constantly missing shots because of framing and slow focus. The I got the Sony DSC-V3 which has raw, continuous shooting, nightshot, infra-red, movie, hot shoe and many other features. Great camera but it still doesn't have the speed and IQ of a DSLR especially in low light. To answer your question, if you want to be more than a point and shoot photographer then you have to get better hardware..
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Above the prosumer level DSLRs are other better cameras which are normally out of the price range of enthusiasts. Canon 5D and the top pro models, then 'medium format' cameras..
It is important to be able to 'love' the camera you're with, so don't rush into buying a DSLR body that has poor ergonomics and over-menu-centric controls. I think they start to get it right at the Canon D30 and Nikon D200 level, also Pentax K10, but they are still WAY worse than the best film SLRs used to be..
I've got a love-hate relationship with my DSLR (a KM 5D) but I'm a glasses wearer and find it difficult to see all of the viewfinder (especially the data at the bottom). KM 7D would have been about the best for me, then Canon 30D at the APS sensor level. So my enjoyment of a Fuji 9100 (see bridge camera link below) stems initially from being able to see everything again..
Whether I'm using a P&S or a more complicated bridge camera, the shots I take still get DSLR style treatment. I expect to be using (and don't mind) +/-EV and various locks in difficult light. It helps hugely to be able to see the data without having to check after taking the shot on the back plate LCD.John.Please visit me at:http://www.pbase.com/johnfr/backtothebridgehttp://www.pbase.com/johnfr..
As others have mentioned, there is a learning curve with a DSLR. I have had mine for about 6 weeks, and of course I still have A LOT to learn. I've had some very frustrating moments, maybe a little buyer's remorse. But I'm very happy with my decision now that I've learned to use this tool appropriately. It's like learning to play an instrument, it takes practice. It can be intimidating at first, but it's really cool when you get comfortable with it..
I visit this forum often, pick up tips here and there, re-read sections of the owner's manual from time to time. I've read a couple of books from the library. There are really just a few key things that you need to understand well, and learn to set up your camera accordingly. It doesn't have to be a complicated and frustrating experience every time you want to snap off a few shots of the kids..
The thing that you should know, that I wish I had understood from the beginning, is that you will be constantly making adjustments. For each situation, there are optimal settings, and it takes time to learn what you should do to set up accordingly. I suppose if you shoot RAW you can do a lot of the adjustments on the computer later on, but even then there is a lot to know in order to use the software. As for me, I prefer to get the picture correctly right out of the camera, jepgs only. I do some minor tweaking, cropping, contrast, and noise filter when needed, but don't enjoy that part at all. I'd rather see the photo just as I took it and say, Wow, I nailed it!.
With a little patience, you start to get better and quicker. And, for the times when you don't feel like thinking so hard, the entry level DSLRS come with a vareity of automatic modes (action, low light, landscape, sunset, etc.) I've found myself doing some of each, auto and manual. I'll fire off a few shots in an automatic mode, then I'll review the EXIF data and study what the camera has done, and then try to replicate those settings with manual controls. I think I've learned a lot that way. Sometimes, I prefer the results from the camera's automatic settings. But sometimes, I prefer my own handiwork, and that is a very satisfying feeling! It's a question of how much time and energy you want to devote to this hobby..
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I do not regret for one second getting my Nikon D40. I had bought a Sony H5 previously. I got so aggravated with the H5, I forget all the reasons but I think it mainly had to do with focus time and shutter lag. I love using the D40, easy easy and great pictures. My co-worker is wanting a new camera and asked my opinion. So for curiousity's sake, I got the H5 back out.
No, and last time I checked, I now have 6 Nikon DSLRs, .
BRJR ....(LOL, some of us are quite satisfied as Hobbyists ..).
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Where did you find a D40 at 270? I can only find it at 340 odds..
And neither I think would you. You have a great eye and produce consistently enjoyable shots. You would be well served by upgrading. I still have certain places that I use my F11 or F31, and I love them, but I really enjoy my DSLR. A nice body with 2 or 3 well researched lens and you will be good to go..
Having had several film SLR I became frustrated quickly with the limitations of the point and shoots and bridge cameras, but I had a series of Fuji's that I used to the maxx..
I think the new S100fs will be great, but it will still have the same bridge limitations, if you want to move on you will have to consider the upgrade.Go for it girl, you have talent!.
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I got a DSLR for my wife. SHe had a wether proof Olympus for her pruse, that she loved, but wanted something to take even better pictures..
She did not want to use my 30D , with it's battery pack. nor my kids 10D, with it's battery pack. The wife wanted something smaller and definitely a superzoom or some such. No white lenses for her..
I picked up a Digital Rebel (300D) and even that was too big, too heavy, too. you get teh idea..
Ended up getting her a little Canon S3 IS and she loves it. Will still fit in her purse, looks like a mini-DSLR without changing lenses, and gives her the image quality she wants..
When she is going to go do soemthing that may put the camera into a tough shooting situation, she tells me about, I set the camera up, and away she goes..
So, yes, for someoen who wants nothing more than Jpegs to look at on her monitor and send in e-mail, she was unhappy with her DSLR..
Of course, when she does get the occasional "WOW' image that needs printed, guess who spends all the time on teh PC post proccessing it , so it looks good as a print. That;s when I really wish she had stuck it out with the Digital Rebel and RAW.Dave PattersonMidwestshutterbug.com'When the light and composition are strong, nobodynotices things like resolution or pincushion distortion'Gary Friedman..
I would only add that a DSLR can still deliver terrific, right out of the camera, jpegs pictures. One just needs to set it up correctly, for the shooting situation..
My wife hates dslr's, too big. too heavy. Yet when it is important and I cannot be there. I set up the kids 10D for the situation and away she goes. She downloads the jpegs to her photo folder and leaves the RAW files alone. I get to those later..
No camera can do it, all the time. not without help. But, with just alittle knowledge and frothought, one can increase the odds.Dave PattersonMidwestshutterbug.com'When the light and composition are strong, nobodynotices things like resolution or pincushion distortion'Gary Friedman..
Haven't seen your posts lately. After just checking your recent history, I see why now. Good to see you are still active and helping share the Knowledge..
Always did enjoy reading your thoughts, over the KM Fourm(MUG too, if I remember correctly).
Anyway, nice to see around again.Dave PattersonMidwestshutterbug.com'When the light and composition are strong, nobodynotices things like resolution or pincushion distortion'Gary Friedman..
I don't regret having a compact and a slr. They each serve their purpose. If you decide to get a slr you do have to make a commitment to learn about photography. The slr offers a wider range of possibility. If you exert the effort to learn how to use it's capabilities you can take a wider range of photo's. Whether you require or desire the wider range of possibilities can only be answered by you...
I haven't regretted it yet. I got one recently.Reasons why I went to the DSLR:I have a lot of time to shoot my subjects, and need very clear images..
I enjoy learning new things. Playing with a camera and learning it is like a cure or a distraction from my OCD like behavior.It is more fun to take pics, swap lens, and have better pics..
Camera class gives me something to learn, more to focus on rather than reading a manual.My pics come out much nicer almost all the time..
I do not know if I'd lug my DSLR over the P&S camera around on a vacation, but I would think long and hard about it before leaving it home..
I think I do regret a lens purchase or two. I wish I chose a body and a vibration Reduction Lens rather than the body with kit lens...
Some of the Better P&S cameras are pretty good. But the simple truth is that a sensor that size simply can not compete with even the smallest of the DSLR sensors when it comes to image quality..
There are a lot of good reasons to buy and use one of the better P&S cameras. But when you are looking for a whole 'nother level in image quality, you simply won't find it in the P&S arena.STOP Global Stasis! Change is good!.
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Hi Dave... thanks for commenting and bringing this old thread back to life.. I still use the KM5D for work and more demanding shots, but the convenience factor of the Fuji 9100 has made the latter my walk-around camera of choice at present..
Perhaps the New Sony A350 with flip out LCD and live view might be attractive enough now, but I'm the kind of shooter that prefers separate controls ... 2 wheels ... for shutter and aperture..
(I still use an OM2 film camera and enjoy using it with the shutter, aperture and focus all on or at the throat of the lens. Not to mention a proper viewfinder thatt's 'bigger' then normal eyesight.).
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