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We are all amateurs here and we need to buy a camera to take shots of products- think plate-sized products. We would appreciate any suggestions on what camera to buy and what we need to do to get best possible product shots..

Thanks.

Pat..

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Canon A650IS. Due to it's swivel LCD..

Pat Renz wrote:.

We are all amateurs here and we need to buy a camera to take shots ofproducts- think plate-sized products. We would appreciate anysuggestions on what camera to buy and what we need to do to get bestpossible product shots..

Thanks.

Pat.

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Comment #1

Liquid crystal display....The screen for taking and viewing pics. usually 2.5 inches..

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Pat Renz wrote:.

We are all amateurs here and we need to buy a camera to take shots ofproducts- think plate-sized products. We would appreciate anysuggestions on what camera to buy and what we need to do to get bestpossible product shots..

Thanks.

Pat.

Hi Pat,.

Good question. With product shots, the most important factor is actually lighting, not the camera. For a good example of a product shot tutorial, you can check this website out: http://www.irphotoschool.com/...lessons/c5050diamondRing/c5050diamondRing.php.

Now the lighting equipment is pretty fancy in the example, but it gives you an idea of the importance of lighting..

You can actually do a pretty decent product shot with the following:1. Almost any recent digital camera, even a compact will do in a pinch2. A decent tripod that's appropriately sized for the camera3. An off-camera flash/or a bright window4. A table5. A bedsheet that serves as a background and underlay6.



Here's an excellent blog that can help you out with lighting setup.http://strobist.blogspot.com/..

Comment #3

Re>what we need to do to get best possible product shots.<.

Why in the world would you think a complete amateur could use any camera to get the "best possible produict shots'?.

The question is an insult to any real professional photographer..

So, first apologize, and then tell us how th4ese photos are going to be used, and you can probably get some help in obtaining "adequate photos for low-rent purposes for a business run by people with little or no knowledge of marketing, advertising, or the use of photography.".

Not hard at all to get a 2 x 3 inch photo to run with the tv listings in some small town paper..

Similarly easy for a 400 pixel x 500 pixel shot for a web site..

But you apparently want "the3 best possible...".

Among other things how big will the pictures be? Are they just for web sites, or for printing on paper? If on paper, newsprint or glossy magazine stock?.

Are they going to be on posters? How big?.

Are the pictus going to be taken in a studio, out in a factory, on shelves in a retial store????.

All these factors matter..

What';s your budget? The best possible pictures of plate sized products awould be taken by a skilled photographer using thouysands of dollors worth of lights and a camera cositing, in North America, perhaps eight grand, attached to a $500-$2000 lens..

On a tripod, but $100 would cover that...

Comment #4

Start with what lights you will need, hot light (continuous) are very affordable but you will need long exposures some cameras are not so good at long exposures, strobes/monolights (flash studio) cost a little more but are much more powerful but some cameras are better suited (connection points).

If this is a one time thing or if you are not looking to spend a decent amount of money you can make great use of cheap Ebay flash heads and some white foamcore.....

With a little more detail we can be much more helpful.

How much are you spending?.

Have you ever done any shooting before? If not how much time will you have to learn how to use this stuff?.

What other things would you be using the camera for (it may be cheaper to buy a better camera).

The shot I used on Ebay...hot lights/foam core/Plexiglas (under $200 for lighting and a cheap PS camera).

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Practice shot for some ideas on showing motion in a still.....

3 White Lightning Strobes, soft boxes, stands, back drop, DSLR......(let just say over $200  ).

Not much difference if all you need is web shotsregardsRay.

Pat Renz wrote:.

We are all amateurs here and we need to buy a camera to take shots ofproducts- think plate-sized products. We would appreciate anysuggestions on what camera to buy and what we need to do to get bestpossible product shots..

Thanks.

Pat.

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Pat Renz wrote:.

What is LCD?.

If you have to ask that question..

You really need to hire a photographer that knows what they are doing..

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

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Well the Dr. has spoken, honestly why bother posting if you have obviously nothing to offer?.

RegardsRay.

MusicDoctorDJ wrote:.

Pat Renz wrote:.

What is LCD?.

If you have to ask that question..

You really need to hire a photographer that knows what they are doing...

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

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Pat Renz wrote:.

What is LCD?.

Pat,.

LCD stands for, Liquid Crystal Display..

Most camera's have them built in to display the images for you to review after the capture of the image itself. The LCD can also be used to assist in taking the photos instead of looking through small viewfinders. Old film camera's did not have them (LCD's), you had to wait to see the photos until they were developed..

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Comment #8

His reply was valid. Just because it's not what the OP wants to hear doesn't mean there's no truth to it..

If the OP has a lot of shots to do and wants to save money, and time (learning curve) is not a problem they should do it themselves. If they want the 'best' they should hire a pro..

Raymond Bradlau wrote:.

Well the Dr. has spoken, honestly why bother posting if you haveobviously nothing to offer?.

RegardsRay.

MusicDoctorDJ wrote:.

Pat Renz wrote:.

What is LCD?.

If you have to ask that question..

You really need to hire a photographer that knows what they are doing...

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

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Pat Renz wrote:.

We are all amateurs here and we need to buy a camera to take shots ofproducts- think plate-sized products. We would appreciate anysuggestions on what camera to buy and what we need to do to get bestpossible product shots..

Thanks.

Pat.

While others in this thread have been less gentle, the best advice you've been given is about lighting. Unfortunately for you, doing product photography well requires that you know a lot about lighting and studio photography if you want the best quality output. You also need backgrounds, models and props if you're going to do product shots that aren't just ebay snapshots. In all of this, the camera matters less than most of the other things, though that depends on your final output needs- if it's catalog work, then you really need at least a DSLR, and good color-managed workflow end-to-end with calibrated CMYK printing. If it's just online, then you can get away with almost any modern camera, but the differences in lighting, positioning and what you can "clean" out in terms of flaws depend a lot on the market you sell into..

As far as LCDs, frankly that's the least concern- you're shooting product, you should have complete control of the lighting, angles, background, depth of field, etc. You should also probably be shooting tethered if you're at all unfamiliar with the output characteristics of your equipment and environment (oh heck, if you're not shooting on location you should be shooting tethered or running back and forth to the computer anyway-) the camera's LCD isn't nearly large enough to critically evaluate a shot..

Finally, I'll critique the F-100 shot in terms of product photography- while it's certainly better than 99% of the eBay shots, it has at least the following issues in terms of a "best case" product shot (IMO):.

1. The lettering is about 1/3 of a stop too bright for my tastes, which makes it difficult to read- if you read the Nikon brand with a quick glance, you'll find your eyes trying to pull back. It could probably be fixed in post with some local contrast adjustment..

2. The reflections off the top part, especially where "F100" is is too hot, you want the product ID to be clear and easy to read- I think the angle angle of the lights are bad for that whole surface. Could be fixed in post with some local brightness/contrast adjustment..

3. The grip isn't completely clean, the spot on it and near the DoF preview button should be Photoshopped out..

4. The body cap isn't level to the viewer's eye. Could be fixed in post, but you'd have to select out the entire circle and rotate it just right. That's the detail orientation that makes great product guys tick, and it's why I try to avoid doing product stuff these days where I don't have all the time I'd like..

5. The reflection off the plexiglass is too short and doesn't lead the viewer's eye into the body, camera angle issue, not a deal-breaker, but I know graphic design folks that it'd drive nuts. Bigger job to fix in post, but probably worth it if the shot was going to be used for more than a one-off sale..

Don't get me wrong, it's a good product shot, but it's lacking in terms of "best product shot." That's why product photography isn't cheap, even if you've got the equipment, controlling the light on surfaces isn't trivial..

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IMac, therefore iAm wrote:.

His reply was valid. Just because it's not what the OP wants to heardoesn't mean there's no truth to it..

I disagree iMac. This is the BEGINNERS forum, and it should be expected that these types of questions will be asked. Let's share some civility to those who have less knowledge and perhaps the sharing of that knowledge will come back to us in the form of respect..

If the OP has a lot of shots to do and wants to save money, and time(learning curve) is not a problem they should do it themselves. Ifthey want the 'best' they should hire a pro..

Raymond Bradlau wrote:.

Well the Dr. has spoken, honestly why bother posting if you haveobviously nothing to offer?.

RegardsRay.

MusicDoctorDJ wrote:.

Pat Renz wrote:.

What is LCD?.

If you have to ask that question..

You really need to hire a photographer that knows what they are doing...

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

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Remember.always keep the box and everything that came in it!.

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Comment #11

Ok, I guess as he has questions on how to do it HIMSELF I took it as "best possible shots I can do".

If we take this question literally (you must be dense, as he asked how to do it himself) you must know to get photos that would be considered the best in the industry you may very well be looking $50,000 or more, but you think any pro could do it?.

The DJ decided to read some into the word BEST but not go all the way, just enough to get away with the typical DPR one liner.

I'm done, Be helpful or just skip the darn thread! it's getting old trying to learn something here when 50% of threads are post from people who do not know enough to be helpful and feel the need to try and be witty to cover it up..

RegardsRay.

IMac, therefore iAm wrote:.

His reply was valid. Just because it's not what the OP wants to heardoesn't mean there's no truth to it..

If the OP has a lot of shots to do and wants to save money, and time(learning curve) is not a problem they should do it themselves. Ifthey want the 'best' they should hire a pro..

Raymond Bradlau wrote:.

Well the Dr. has spoken, honestly why bother posting if you haveobviously nothing to offer?.

RegardsRay.

MusicDoctorDJ wrote:.

Pat Renz wrote:.

What is LCD?.

If you have to ask that question..

You really need to hire a photographer that knows what they are doing...

J. D.Colorful Colorado.

Image control:Zoom outZoom 100%Zoom inExpand AllOpen in new window.

Remember.always keep the box and everything that came in it!.

Http://www.pbase.com/ray645.

Some cool cats that can use your helphttp://www.wildlife-sanctuary.org.

Even if you can't donate, please help spread the word..

Http://www.pbase.com/ray645..

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MusicDoctorDJ wrote:.

Pat Renz wrote:.

What is LCD?.

If you have to ask that question..

You really need to hire a photographer that knows what they are doing.

Perhaps an explanatory link might be more appropriate. I was under the impression that customer service was not entirely unfamiliar to you..

Could we please stick to being helpful in the Beginner's forum? Pretty please?.

GordonGordon SolomonAssistant technical writer, dpreview.com..

Comment #13

AH! tuff but honest and helpful.

And regarding my F100 shot, I wanted to get an idea of "best" is to the OP, I think it's may be the best you are going to do your first few times out with hot light and small digi camera.

Another Ebay shot .

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And one I like (text was added to the left in the add).

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5. The reflection off the plexiglass is too short and doesn't lead the viewer's eye into the body, camera angle issue, not a deal-breaker, but I know graphic design folks that it'd drive nuts. Bigger job to fix in post, but probably worth it if the shot was going to be used for more than a one-off sale..

I think this is one of the hardest parts, the folks who hire the photographer are not the ones who are actually going to have to "make" the add,.

I did a shot exactly as asked (beer bottle sitting on a bar with boxing tickets near it, bottle sharp everything else out of focus, they used it for there posters and some local magazine adds, all is well in the world....latter I get a call they would like to use it again, and offer me the same amount! I say sure....turns out they used the only the bottle, cut copy it onto plane colored BG's with text, it must have been a pain cutting it out of the distracting back ground (I bet the ones who had to do it loved me), I could have made the hero shot they needed in like 15 min, and even delivered it as a layered TIFF..

You seem to have a good amount of experience here, how often do you talk with the ones who will actually be working with your files vs. dealing with managers or bosses?.

I know this could be a long one to answer, dont worry about it if you do not have the time..

RegardsRay.

Paul Robertson wrote:.

Pat Renz wrote:.

We are all amateurs here and we need to buy a camera to take shots ofproducts- think plate-sized products. We would appreciate anysuggestions on what camera to buy and what we need to do to get bestpossible product shots..

Thanks.

Pat.

While others in this thread have been less gentle, the best adviceyou've been given is about lighting. Unfortunately for you, doingproduct photography well requires that you know a lot about lightingand studio photography if you want the best quality output. You alsoneed backgrounds, models and props if you're going to do productshots that aren't just ebay snapshots. In all of this, the cameramatters less than most of the other things, though that depends onyour final output needs- if it's catalog work, then you really needat least a DSLR, and good color-managed workflow end-to-end withcalibrated CMYK printing. If it's just online, then you can get awaywith almost any modern camera, but the differences in lighting,positioning and what you can "clean" out in terms of flaws depend alot on the market you sell into..

As far as LCDs, frankly that's the least concern- you're shootingproduct, you should have complete control of the lighting, angles,background, depth of field, etc. You should also probably beshooting tethered if you're at all unfamiliar with the outputcharacteristics of your equipment and environment (oh heck, if you'renot shooting on location you should be shooting tethered or runningback and forth to the computer anyway-) the camera's LCD isn't nearlylarge enough to critically evaluate a shot..

Finally, I'll critique the F-100 shot in terms of productphotography- while it's certainly better than 99% of the eBay shots,it has at least the following issues in terms of a "best case"product shot (IMO):.

1. The lettering is about 1/3 of a stop too bright for my tastes,which makes it difficult to read- if you read the Nikon brand with aquick glance, you'll find your eyes trying to pull back. It couldprobably be fixed in post with some local contrast adjustment.2. The reflections off the top part, especially where "F100" is istoo hot, you want the product ID to be clear and easy to read- Ithink the angle angle of the lights are bad for that whole surface.Could be fixed in post with some local brightness/contrast adjustment.3. The grip isn't completely clean, the spot on it and near the DoFpreview button should be Photoshopped out.4. The body cap isn't level to the viewer's eye.

That's the detail orientation that makes great productguys tick, and it's why I try to avoid doing product stuff these dayswhere I don't have all the time I'd like.5. The reflection off the plexiglass is too short and doesn't leadthe viewer's eye into the body, camera angle issue, not adeal-breaker, but I know graphic design folks that it'd drive nuts.Bigger job to fix in post, but probably worth it if the shot wasgoing to be used for more than a one-off sale..

Don't get me wrong, it's a good product shot, but it's lacking interms of "best product shot." That's why product photography isn'tcheap, even if you've got the equipment, controlling the light onsurfaces isn't trivial..

Paulhttp://PaulDRobertson.imagekind.com.

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Comment #14

Gordon Solomon wrote:.

MusicDoctorDJ wrote:.

Pat Renz wrote:.

What is LCD?.

If you have to ask that question..

You really need to hire a photographer that knows what they are doing.

Perhaps an explanatory link might be more appropriate. I was underthe impression that customer service was not entirely unfamiliar toyou..

Could we please stick to being helpful in the Beginner's forum?Pretty please?.

Especially to a FIRST TIME POSTER here..

Thanks Gordon!.

GordonGordon SolomonAssistant technical writer, dpreview.com.

Conrad 'Bye Bye' Birdie'Aspire to inspire before you expire'...

Comment #15

Raymond Bradlau wrote:.

AH! tuff but honest and helpful.

I hope it was taken in the spirit it was intended- you should see how I critique my own shots! I think we can all learn, and even those who can't necessarily shoot can provide good critique, but of course the best critique comes from other shooters who can do it well. My product photography is just starting to get to the standards I have in my other work, so I'm very aware of the issues and how much I struggle with them, especially with light off of some faces of some products..

And regarding my F100 shot, I wanted to get an idea of "best" is tothe OP, I think it's may be the best you are going to do your firstfew times out with hot light and small digi camera.

I think it did that admirably, I just wanted to OP to know the difference between "good" and "best" because depending on their market, they may actually lose sales from shots that aren't actually really in the "best" class. I also wanted them to know that there's a significant "learning curve" even after you have all the pieces, and if you're not committed to following that curve it may not be best to start out on that path..

Another Ebay shot .

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Excellent work! If I'm uber-picky, I'd ding the reflection in the shutter button and the top's a tad bright on the right side of the pentaprism, but I can't imagine any art director having issues with this shot. It's way over eBay standards- those dings would be if Canon was using it in an ad..

And one I like (text was added to the left in the add).

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That's a hellacious shot. I love the lighting! If there's a flaw there, it's not apparent to me. Cars are difficult too- the lighting in that shot speaks to me, and I like what it's saying!.

Now, here's my only thought- and really it's got nothing to do with the quality of the shot and I mean absolutely nothing, it's a fantastic shot-.

Most Western folks read right to left, if I were an advertiser, I'd want my copy first (top left) and my logo last (bottom right over the grill probably)- start with the message, finish with the brand. So, ideally I'd want the car on the right of the frame so that my message were done in a Z starting with the copy and ending with the logo. If I were an Asian advertiser, this orientation would be preferable (top to bottom right to left.).

Really though, the image is stunning..

5. The reflection off the plexiglass is too short and doesn't leadthe viewer's eye into the body, camera angle issue, not adeal-breaker, but I know graphic design folks that it'd drive nuts.Bigger job to fix in post, but probably worth it if the shot wasgoing to be used for more than a one-off sale..

I think this is one of the hardest parts, the folks who hire thephotographer are not the ones who are actually going to have to"make" the add,.

If the art director isn't involved it's so much more difficult. It's also so much harder to get lots more work- if you can find an AD who clicks with you and get them what they want you'll get lots of repeats and new clients from the AD. If the piece is their vision, then the more in step you are the easier it goes and the happier the customer..

I did a shot exactly as asked (beer bottle sitting on a bar withboxing tickets near it, bottle sharp everything else out of focus,they used it for there posters and some local magazine adds, all iswell in the world....latter I get a call they would like to use itagain, and offer me the same amount! I say sure....turns out theyused the only the bottle, cut copy it onto plane colored BG's withtext, it must have been a pain cutting it out of the distracting background (I bet the ones who had to do it loved me), I could have madethe hero shot they needed in like 15 min, and even delivered it as alayered TIFF..

Hey, the ones who did it were probably getting paid by the hour, don't feel too sorry for them! But yes, the difference between good and fantastic from the designer's perspective is that you've shot all the combinations and they can pick the files (but you don't really want the customer seeing all that variation, it'll confuse them and they'll see you differently.).

You seem to have a good amount of experience here, how often do youtalk with the ones who will actually be working with your files vs.dealing with managers or bosses?.

I tend to not do much product work, but I'd absolutely bend over backwards to be able to run the concept and proofs directly past the AD and get their input and/or better yet have them there for the shoot. The most successful product guys I know work hand-in-hand with the AD at the marketing or advertising firm (yes, they go nuts over if they're marketing or advertising- at least in my experience.) Even if the AD is a royal PITA, ultimately they're designing the piece and you catering to them will give the piece what they've envisioned and make you their hero- and let's face it, a happy AD uses the same photographer whenever they get the chance if that photographer's making them happy..

I've seen photographer/AD relationships, especially at third-party firms where the AD just tells the client when the photographer will be shooting their concept and bills them for it- that's gold for a photographer- no marketing necessary, and steady work!.

Worst-case try to get hold of the ADs afterwards and ask for their input and find out what they did- shoot those sorts of things the next time you work for the client and make sure they get to the AD..

The only folks who can get away with not doing that are the AD/Photographer hybrids, and they're rolling in repeat business..

Paulhttp://PaulDRobertson.imagekind.com..

Comment #16

I'm not defending the manner in how he said what he did. But if the OP needs product shots doing it himself may not be in his best self interest. Just because he wants to do it himself, doesn't mean he 'should' do it himself. It boils down to budget, expectations, and what it's for. If it's to sell something once on eBay, not a problem. If he's shooting expensive jewelry for use in ads in art-quality magazines - not a good idea to do it himself.



As of right now we only know two things. They are all amateurs and the OP doesn't know what the LCD is. We don't know what they are shooting or for what purpose. Without clarification, the advise to 'hire a pro' may - or may not be - good advice. That is for the OP to decide. But until we know more, it isn't any less valid than any other advice..

What would you advise the OP if they wanted to shoot a friends wedding and the bride was really picky and demanding and wanted the best possible results? Would you still advise them to shoot it?.

Take your shots at how MusicDRdj replied - but don't summarily dismiss the underlying message..

Raymond Bradlau wrote:.

Ok, I guess as he has questions on how to do it HIMSELF I took it as"best possible shots I can do".

If we take this question literally (you must be dense, as he askedhow to do it himself) you must know to get photos that would beconsidered the best in the industry you may very well be looking$50,000 or more, but you think any pro could do it?.

The DJ decided to read some into the word BEST but not go all theway, just enough to get away with the typical DPR one liner.

I'm done, Be helpful or just skip the darn thread! it's getting oldtrying to learn something here when 50% of threads are post frompeople who do not know enough to be helpful and feel the need to tryand be witty to cover it up..

RegardsRay.

IMac, therefore iAm wrote:.

His reply was valid. Just because it's not what the OP wants to heardoesn't mean there's no truth to it..

If the OP has a lot of shots to do and wants to save money, and time(learning curve) is not a problem they should do it themselves. Ifthey want the 'best' they should hire a pro...

Comment #17

IMac, therefore iAm wrote:.

I'm not defending the manner in how he said what he did. But if theOP needs product shots doing it himself may not be in his best selfinterest. Just because he wants to do it himself, doesn't mean he'should' do it himself. It boils down to budget, expectations, andwhat it's for. If it's to sell something once on eBay, not a problem.If he's shooting expensive jewelry for use in ads in art-qualitymagazines - not a good idea to do it himself. Sometimes being'helpful' is to point out when expectations may not be in line withreality..

As of right now we only know two things. They are all amateurs andthe OP doesn't know what the LCD is. We don't know what they areshooting or for what purpose. Without clarification, the advise to'hire a pro' may - or may not be - good advice. That is for the OP todecide. But until we know more, it isn't any less valid than anyother advice..

What would you advise the OP if they wanted to shoot a friendswedding and the bride was really picky and demanding and wanted thebest possible results? Would you still advise them to shoot it?.

Take your shots at how MusicDRdj replied - but don't summarilydismiss the underlying message..

I don't think anyone is dismissing the message. It was loud and clear, and rude. Especially to a first time poster..

If this post would have been in the PRO forum, I can see the response as valid, but not in the beginers forum..

FYI, I once asked a gentleman, who was wearing a military hat, what the initials "DUH" on top of the hat meant..........lol. Does not mean I am ignorant, I just felt dumb after he answered. So, even though we all can form our own opinions of some based upon questions asked, lets be careful not to run them off with rude replies. Being civil and just answering the question politely would have been the best course in this situation..

Also remember, a PRO did not start out as that, as I am sure they asked a ton of silly questions along the way also. But they had the guts to ask. Lets remember, their is no such thing as a "silly question" here, right?.

Raymond Bradlau wrote:.

Ok, I guess as he has questions on how to do it HIMSELF I took it as"best possible shots I can do".

If we take this question literally (you must be dense, as he askedhow to do it himself) you must know to get photos that would beconsidered the best in the industry you may very well be looking$50,000 or more, but you think any pro could do it?.

The DJ decided to read some into the word BEST but not go all theway, just enough to get away with the typical DPR one liner.

I'm done, Be helpful or just skip the darn thread! it's getting oldtrying to learn something here when 50% of threads are post frompeople who do not know enough to be helpful and feel the need to tryand be witty to cover it up..

RegardsRay.

IMac, therefore iAm wrote:.

His reply was valid. Just because it's not what the OP wants to heardoesn't mean there's no truth to it..

If the OP has a lot of shots to do and wants to save money, and time(learning curve) is not a problem they should do it themselves. Ifthey want the 'best' they should hire a pro..

Conrad 'Bye Bye' Birdie'Aspire to inspire before you expire'...

Comment #18

Thank you, Gordon! This gets really old. Would you care to hang out in the Open forum where this goes on, as well? Pleeeeeeeeeeeease????.

Maureen..

Comment #19

So first apologize? Because you misread his intent?.

Some of you shouldn't be allowed in the Beginner's forum..

Geeze!..

Comment #20

And many should be limited to.....oh snap! my fist one liner on DPreview, ha, being rude is fun after all .

Just a joke, no disrespect intended..

Mareda wrote:.

Some of you shouldn't be allowed in the Beginner's forum..

Geeze!.

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Comment #21

Conrad Birdie wrote:.

IMac, therefore iAm wrote:.

Take your shots at how MusicDRdj replied - but don't summarilydismiss the underlying message..

I don't think anyone is dismissing the message. It was loud andclear, and rude. Especially to a first time poster..

Fine, the OP knew even less than most beginners and someone was a bit harsh about it. But the 'expert' response that caused the OP to ask the the question, recommended a specific camera for product photography *because it has a swivel LCD* !!!!!!! Good grief. That's where you should be directing your attention - at times, the quality of so called 'advice' on this forum beggars belief...

Comment #22

In spite of all the dissing back and forth between posters, only one person actually made any recommendation. The rest has been posturing...

Comment #23

Pat Renz wrote:.

We are all amateurs here and we need to buy a camera to take shots ofproducts- think plate-sized products. We would appreciate anysuggestions on what camera to buy and what we need to do to get bestpossible product shots..

I do a fair amount of simple, low-cost product photography so I can probably offer a few ideas, but at the moment your question is just too vague. A few questions....

"Plate-sized products". So are they plates? The nature of the product could affect the best way to go about this - tell us more..

What sort of budget is available? If you have to do this on a shoestring that's ok but it's best to be up front about it. That way you'll get more useful, relevant advice..

Is this a one-off, or a long term requirement? If it's long term, it's easier to justify not only the cost of good equipment, but also the learning curve which is considerable if you want to do it well. If it is a one-off or very infrequent need, you are probably best advised to give the job to a professional. It will cost less and you will get better results..

What will the photographs be used for?..

Comment #24

Paininthelens wrote:.

In spite of all the dissing back and forth between posters, only oneperson actually made any recommendation. The rest has been posturing..

Http://forums.dpreview.com/...forums/read.asp?forum=1002&message=25786314.

Conrad 'Bye Bye' Birdie'Aspire to inspire before you expire'...

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