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I been using a p&s olympus digital for a while and I've decided to move on to a DSLR more as a hobby than anything. The most important part to me is being able to capture great photos for my boyfriends two bands. I get some standard pics now but a lot of them are just useless blurred I assume due to bad lighting etc. I am looking into the Nikon D40 or the Olympus E510. I'm leaning toward the olympus because of the IS on the body rather then the lenses. The other anticipated use are to be able to go out and shoot randomly as my eye chooses as well as the sunrise/set and some portraits.

I do love photos where the subject is clear and the background a bit softer too. I know this is an elementary concept of photography but thats all I really need for now. Well, I hope someone can help...

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And I've had great success with low light shooting, and love the IS, too. The 2 kit lenses will get you off to a great start and they are offering some really good deals on them now..

Drop by the Olympus SLR forum..

You can check my galleries of E-510 photos at http://www.pbase.com/lucy/e510&page=all.

There are some photos from concerts there..

Good luck with your choice..

LucyE- 510, 40- 150, 14- 54 and ZD 35 Macro lensesU ZI owner!Olympus C30-20Zhttp://www.pbase.com/lucyFCAS Member #98, Oly Division'Photography is the art of seeing what others do not.'..

Comment #1

Thank you so much! I greatly appreciate hearing that from someone with the camera...

Comment #2

Preemptive wrote:.

Thank you so much! I greatly appreciate hearing that from someonewith the camera..

Why? Almost 100% of owners will tell you they like whatever they bought!.

I don't have either camera and will tell you that BOTH are fine choices...BUT they are slightly different. If low-light is your primary concern, then get a camera with as large a sensor as you can afford and as few pixels as you can stand..

Charlie DavisNikon 5700, Sony R1, Nikon D300HomePage: http://www.1derful.infoBridge Blog: http://www.here-ugo.com/BridgeBlog/'Experience: Discovering that a claw hammer will bend nails.Epiphany: Discovering that a claw hammer is two tools...'..

Comment #3

While I would normally agree with Charlie - bigger sensorr = better low light performance, there are more factors to consider..

In the case of the 510, it's IS should easily give you 2-3 stops over a non IS camera, meaning what you might have to shoot at 1600 ISO on the Nikon, you can shoot at 200 or 400 on the 510 and the slightly. larger sensor of the Nikon is not that much of an advantage..

Yes you can get an IS lens for the Nikon at extra cost. You can get a brighter lens for the 510 too..

The price performance of the E510 2 lens kit is hard to beat..

RegardsJim.

Http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimboutilier/..

Comment #4

Jim, there are at least two different issues with low-light performance:.

1. The ability to capture enough light to focus and use a fast exposure time to eliminate motion blur..

2. Noise..

As you say, Oly has nicely compensated for their choice of a smaller sensor with faster glass and in-camera IS...these work well to handle #1. However, the small sensor still gives a bit more noise, especially in dim venues..

Note that these differences are not big and the E-510 is a nice camera..

Jim Boutilier wrote:.

While I would normally agree with Charlie - bigger sensorr = betterlow light performance, there are more factors to consider..

In the case of the 510, it's IS should easily give you 2-3 stops overa non IS camera, meaning what you might have to shoot at 1600 ISO onthe Nikon, you can shoot at 200 or 400 on the 510 and the slightly.larger sensor of the Nikon is not that much of an advantage..

Yes you can get an IS lens for the Nikon at extra cost. You can geta brighter lens for the 510 too..

The price performance of the E510 2 lens kit is hard to beat..

RegardsJim.

Http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimboutilier/.

Charlie DavisNikon 5700, Sony R1, Nikon D300HomePage: http://www.1derful.infoBridge Blog: http://www.here-ugo.com/BridgeBlog/'Experience: Discovering that a claw hammer will bend nails.Epiphany: Discovering that a claw hammer is two tools...'..

Comment #5

I think you may want to expand your choices a bit, the D40 and E-510 are probably not the two best choices if your primary purpose is gig photography. Main reason being the availability and compatability of fast prime lenses. To get good concert shots in all but the biggest and brightest of events you are going to need 'fast', or 'bright' lenses, of at least f/2.8 but ideally f/2 to f/1.4. This can be quite expensive, especially for bright zoom lenses, but you can do it on a budget with prime lenses, for example the good old 50mm f1.8 standard lens..

I use an E-510 for concert shots, but it has cost me a fair bit extra over the 'kit' price to get some fast lenses, the Olympus 50mm f/2 and Sigma 30mm f/1.4. There are also some excellent f/2 zoom lenses available from Olympus, but they are very costly. You can adapt a wide variety of old manual focus primes to Oly bodies as a budget solution but this requires manual focus and stop-down metering, tricky stuff for the beginner..

The D40 has good image quality but it doesn't have the in-body focus motor needed for many of the Nikon prime lenses, if you want autofocus in a D40/60 you need AF motors in your lenses. To get full use of the bright prime Nikkors you would need a D50/70/80/200/300 or better..

Canon can be a good choice for the aspiring gig photographer as their cameras have quite good high ISO performance and there is wide range of fast primes available. Most of their entry level bodies do lack spot-metering however which is a pretty handy tool for precise exposure in gig conditions. 450D or 20/30/40D would be your best choice here..

I don't know the Pentax system very well, but I do know they have an extensive selection of prime lenses so it's well worth a look...

Comment #6

Jim Boutilier wrote:.

While I would normally agree with Charlie - bigger sensorr = betterlow light performance, there are more factors to consider..

In the case of the 510, it's IS should easily give you 2-3 stops overa non IS camera, meaning what you might have to shoot at 1600 ISO onthe Nikon, you can shoot at 200 or 400 on the 510 and the slightly.larger sensor of the Nikon is not that much of an advantage..

We are no talking here of still life shots in a museum or whatever. IS will not help you at all in any photo where there is subject movement. You will need an absolute minimum shutter speed of 1/60th and 1/100th would be better which means ISO 1600 and f/2.8 or better. Most of my output is ISO 1600 low available light so I do have some experience..

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/..

Comment #7

Kurt Petersen wrote:.

I think you may want to expand your choices a bit, the D40 and E-510are probably not the two best choices if your primary purpose is gigphotography. Main reason being the availability and compatability offast prime lenses. To get good concert shots in all but the biggestand brightest of events you are going to need 'fast', or 'bright'lenses, of at least f/2.8 but ideally f/2 to f/1.4. This can be quiteexpensive, especially for bright zoom lenses, but you can do it on abudget with prime lenses, for example the good old 50mm f1.8 standardlens.I use an E-510 for concert shots, but it has cost me a fair bit extraover the 'kit' price to get some fast lenses, the Olympus 50mm f/2and Sigma 30mm f/1.4. There are also some excellent f/2 zoom lensesavailable from Olympus, but they are very costly. You can adapt awide variety of old manual focus primes to Oly bodies as a budgetsolution but this requires manual focus and stop-down metering,tricky stuff for the beginner.The D40 has good image quality but it doesn't have the in-body focusmotor needed for many of the Nikon prime lenses, if you wantautofocus in a D40/60 you need AF motors in your lenses.

Most of their entry level bodies do lackspot-metering however which is a pretty handy tool for preciseexposure in gig conditions. 450D or 20/30/40D would be your bestchoice here.I don't know the Pentax system very well, but I do know they have anextensive selection of prime lenses so it's well worth a look..

SPOT ON!.

(I use a D50 and a D80 plus 2 x f/2.8 lenses and a 50mm f/1.4. A used Nikon D50 or a Canon 350D would be a pretty good bet for a body and you can pick up affordable used low light AF lenses for either.).

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/..

Comment #8

Your profile does not say which county you are in..

I have just spotted a used D50 body at Mifsuds in the UK for 179 which sounds OK to me. They have a decent reputation and will give more details to any potential buyer..

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/..

Comment #9

Preemptive wrote:.

I do love photos where the subject is clear and the background a bit softertoo..

This is a little harder to achieve with the Olympus's as their smaller sensor results in increased depth of field in equivalent shots. However, greater DOF is usually an advantage..

I'd suggest looking at the Canon XSi. Low-light performance is second to nothing in it's price range, and it autofocuses with all Canon AF lenses...

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