snubbr.com

About to buy 400D - Lens Advice...
So I have made up my mind and have decided that my money is gonna go with the EOS 400D kit... I want to purchase an extra (tele) lens and see a few options...

70-300mm (Macro) Sigma or Tamron (both around 99)or55-200mm Sigma or Tamron (around 70- 80).

Questions:Tamron or Sigma? Any real difference?200 or 300mm? Is it worth buying a 300mm lens from this 'budget' price range?.

Thanks for you help...

Http://www.flickr.com/photos/tim_norris/..

Comments (10)

You can find reviews of some of the lenses you mention on.

Http://www.photozone.de.

- have a look there..

Many relatively cheap lenses like the Sigma/Tamron 55-200 and the Sigma/Tamron 70-300 can deliver good results at a remarkably low price, but at the extremes (e.g. longest zoom setting, wide open aperture) the image quality is generally a bit soft, so make sure you stop down a little. Whether you need 300mm over 200mm (more reach at the expense of greater weight) depends on what you shoot..

Of the four lenses you mention, the Tamron 70-300 is probably mentioned most (on this forum) and has many happy users who are pleased with the sharpness and image quality it offers for the price. Of course you can get better, but at several times the price..

Best wishesMike..

Comment #1

You will find that the kit lens on the 400D is universally regarded as weak. Tha tis not the case with the other main players (Check out the reviews). You may want to spend more on your main lens. (Rr for that matter, change you mind about which camera to buy knowing that).

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/..

Comment #2

Chris - Canon EOS400D almost certainly is best value for money right now for my first DSLR... A weak Kit lens is one thing from a seasonsed photographer but for a beginner - surely this is what they are designed for? and btw - they are free.....

Comment #3

The current 400D kit lens (EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS ) is regarded much better than it's predecessor and would be a perfectly suitable basic lens for this camera. See http://www.photozone.de/...1-canon-ef-s-18-55mm-f35-56-is-test-reportreview.

Davehttp://www.pbase.com/dsjtecserv..

Comment #4

ThatBoyTim wrote:.

Chris - Canon EOS400D almost certainly is best value for money rightnow for my first DSLR... A weak Kit lens is one thing from aseasonsed photographer but for a beginner - surely this is what theyare designed for? and btw - they are free....

They are free, haha you wish  Nothing comes for free although your local camera store / electronic department may not offer it most dslr's are sold as body only as well and you'll see a difference in price.When the power of love conquers the love for power the world will know peace..

Comment #5

I know that nothing comes free and I have since noticed that the CashBack offer also applies to the Body Only - though this doesn't appear to be in stock most places...

I think I will go with the Kit lens - as another poster pointed out the kit lens isn't half bad. Unless there is reasonably priced 18-150/200 lens I can buy to go with the body....

Thoughts / ideas ? .

Http://www.flickr.com/photos/tim_norris/..

Comment #6

ThatBoyTim wrote:.

I think I will go with the Kit lens - as another poster pointed outthe kit lens isn't half bad. Unless there is reasonably priced18-150/200 lens I can buy to go with the body....

He is talking about a different lens (and anyway what makes him right and me wrong?) The new IS (Image Stabilised) kit lens is good. The old non-stabilised lens is very weak. In the UK and to the best of my knowledge, elsewhere the 400D is sold as a kit with the old lens which is better avoided. The 400D is NOT sold as a kit with the IS lens..

All kit lenses are NOT equal. The new IS/VR 18-55 lenses from Canon/Nikon are very similar performers. Read the reviews. You have already been provided with a link. The older Canon/Nikon lenses sold as kit lenses do NOT perform the same..

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/..

Comment #7

It seems that some things just don't change around here. Everyone beats on the older 18-55 non-IS kit from Canon. I did a seach on pbase for pictures with this lense (I don't own one) and found many good examples. There are MANY fine examples. A user going by the handle "derekmak" has some examples worth looking at when you aren't too busy slagging this lense. In particular he has some images of people he took while in China with the ever horrible 18-55 kit....

I don't think that posting a link to his pbase site is any violation but apologize in advance if it is..

Notice the one with the child with the orange ballon...I don't know why he wasted his time with this lense (sarcasm).

Http://www.pbase.com/derekmak/people.

Chris Elliott wrote:.

ThatBoyTim wrote:.

I think I will go with the Kit lens - as another poster pointed outthe kit lens isn't half bad. Unless there is reasonably priced18-150/200 lens I can buy to go with the body....

He is talking about a different lens (and anyway what makes him rightand me wrong?) The new IS (Image Stabilised) kit lens is good. Theold non-stabilised lens is very weak. In the UK and to the best of myknowledge, elsewhere the 400D is sold as a kit with the old lenswhich is better avoided. The 400D is NOT sold as a kit with the ISlens..

All kit lenses are NOT equal. The new IS/VR 18-55 lenses fromCanon/Nikon are very similar performers. Read the reviews. You havealready been provided with a link. The older Canon/Nikon lenses soldas kit lenses do NOT perform the same..

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/..

Comment #8

ShawnCo wrote:.

It seems that some things just don't change around here. Everyonebeats on the older 18-55 non-IS kit from Canon..

Thanks ShawnCo.. I think I have come to a decision this morning...

Just buy the kit and get on with it!!!!..

Comment #9

ShawnCo wrote:.

It seems that some things just don't change around here. Everyonebeats on the older 18-55 non-IS kit from Canon. I did a seach on.

Pbase for pictures with this lense (I don't own one)> I don't think that posting a link to his pbase site is any violation but apologize in advance if it is.Notice the one with the child with the orange ballon...I don't knowwhy he wasted his time with this lense (sarcasm).

Http://www.pbase.com/derekmak/people.

You can even get a good photo with a pinhole camera in the right conditions. (Any DSLR with any lens could have taken that photo) Problems start when the conditions are not right. (And the merits of viewing on screen as a determinent of lens quality are debateable anyway).

It is not my opinion. I rely on objective evidence:.

"In lens land there's no such thing as a free lunch and the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II is an example for that. Under controlled conditions (stopping down two stops at 18mm) the lens can provide very decent results - certainly more than enough for casual users who are the target group anyway. However, technically the resolution is mediocre all-in-all and at 18mm @ f/3.5 it's downright poor. Distortions and vignetting are very high at the wide-end but no big issue at the tele end. The construction quality is soso at best. In it's price range there're few alternatives in Canon EOS mount and they probably aren't better either.



Http://www.photozone.de/...0-canon-ef-s-18-55mm-f35-56-ii-test-reportreview.

And from the review of the IS lens on *this* site:.

"Canon's 18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS is the latest in it's line of inexpensive dSLR kit lenses which began with the original 18-55mm in 2003, .....

The design was slightly refreshed with the introduction of a mk II version to accompany the Digital Rebel XT/350D, however this only really featured subtle cosmetic changes, with no improvement to the optics. And those optics were never the strong point of this lens, which gained a reputation as a somewhat mediocre performer, with many users looking to upgrade fairly rapidly.".

Http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/canon_18-55_3p5-5p6_is_c16/.

The IS lens is a MUCH better performer as that review makes clear. So there is now a limited element of choice wheras previously there was little else worthwhile for a Canon user..

In contrast Nikon have not one but three very strong kit lenses. (Don't take my word for it read the reviews (Which is exactly what I encouraged the OP to do)) and a fourth (16-85 VR) which is too new to have been tested but on past performance should also be a strong contender..

To the OP. I am simply trying to allow you to make an informed decision based on objective evidence not my own opinion. The simple fact is that Canon are weak on kit lenses but have other strengths. Just remember that you are likely to have to upgrade your Canon kit lens far sooner than you would have to with a Nikon or several other brands. If you still want to go with the Canon knowing that no problem. Enjoy your new camera and have fun!.

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/..

Comment #10

Click Here to View All...

Sponsored Amazon Deals:

1. Get big savings on Amazon warehouse deals.
2. Save up to 70% on Amazon Products.


This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.

 

Categories: Home | Diet & Weight Management | Vitamins & Supplements | Herbs & Cleansing |

Sexual Health | Medifast Support | Nutrisystem Support | Medifast Questions |

Web Hosting | Web Hosts | Website Hosting | Hosting |

Web Hosting | GoDaddy | Digital Cameras | Best WebHosts |

Web Hosting FAQ | Web Hosts FAQ | Hosting FAQ | Hosting Group |

Hosting Questions | Camera Tips | Best Cameras To Buy | Best Cameras This Year |

Camera Q-A | Digital Cameras Q-A | Camera Forum | Nov 2010 - Cameras |

Oct 2010 - Cameras | Oct 2010 - DSLRs | Oct 2010 - Camera Tips | Sep 2010 - Cameras |

Sep 2010 - DSLRS | Sep 2010 - Camera Tips | Aug 2010 - Cameras | Aug 2010 - DSLR Tips |

Aug 2010 - Camera Tips | July 2010 - Cameras | July 2010 - Nikon Cameras | July 2010 - Canon Cameras |

July 2010 - Pentax Cameras | Medifast Recipes | Medifast Recipes Tips | Medifast Recipes Strategies |

Medifast Recipes Experiences | Medifast Recipes Group | Medifast Recipes Forum | Medifast Support Strategies |

Medifast Support Experiences |

 

(C) Copyright 2010 All rights reserved.