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a sony user, want a change, help and advice please
I have had a Sony H1, H2, H5, and recently bought an H3 purely because of it's size and and fairly well received reviews, but, having got it I really dont like it's new on screen interface. I can't complain about it's IQ and it's general performance..

Comparing it to the H5 I dont feel comfortable with it's handling when shooting, I think I am prepared to go back to a larger better handling camera..

I use my camera for all areas, indoors, outdoors, (normally well lit areas) I do also like using macro, and enjoy taking all aspects of holiday shot's, so generally an all rounder..

The help and advice I would dearly love is, I feel like a change now in brand and have read so many reviews just got a bit lost, I know and accept every camera has good and bad points, but, for an all round camera I am finding it hard to choose.IQ is important to me (up to 200 or 400 iso)Image Stabilization is impotant to meFace Detection is fairly important to meNot really that bothered on capturing top notch video or though it would be nice.

I am looking at the Panny fz18, cannon S5 IS, Cannon S650 is, Poss G9 aswell although I have held the G9 but didnt feel quite comfortable to hold as the others.Have looked at FZ30 & fz50 just a little too big for me..

I have tried to give as much info as I can, sorry if I have bored the pants off of youbut I thought the more info the better..

Can any one give me their opinions to help me, it would be much appreciated, as I am going nuts to decide..

Regards...Lee.w..

Comments (15)

Sounds like a job for the Canon S5 IS..

I think it is the best digi-cam out there today. (I'm not alone in that opinion either)Jim Bianchihttp://www.thephotoop.comDigital guru in the making...

Comment #1

Thanks Jim, it is confusing deciding on whats best for you when their seems to be so many good camera's on the market today..

I have sat and read loads of reviews on the S5 Is and the FZ18 and I don't know if it is me but lot's of the time different people's opinions vary quite alot ??.

Am I wrong to assume the smaller camera's like the H3 and the A650 IS although the inner workings seem to be the same as their big brothers ie Sony H5 and cannon S5 IS that they dont produce the final image as good ??.

Jim or anyone else why the S5 IS and not the FZ18 especially when the FZ18 might just scrape through with the better reviews mostly !!.

I really wanted to purchase the FZ18 because of it's slightly smaller size, but, I do not want to fall in the same trap again, if the S5 IS is gennerally the better camera I am going to pick function over form..

All opinion's are really welcome.....anything else before I part with my hard earned cash..

Lee.w..

Comment #2

Leew8948 wrote:.

Am I wrong to assume the smaller camera's like the H3 and the A650 ISalthough the inner workings seem to be the same as their big brothersie Sony H5 and cannon S5 IS that they dont produce the final image asgood ??.

In genera, more zoom, more compromises on image quality (e.g. sharpness, distortion, color fringing problems). A650IS has better lens and swivel LCD too. IQ is one of the best among P&S cameras..

Jim or anyone else why the S5 IS and not the FZ18 especially when theFZ18 might just scrape through with the better reviews mostly !!I really wanted to purchase the FZ18 because of it's slightly smallersize, but, I do not want to fall in the same trap again, if the S5 ISis gennerally the better camera I am going to pick function over form..

FZ18 is one of the big zoom camera where Panasonic was able to keep the compromises in check. Surprisingly it suffers less from distortion/fringing problems. However you should shoot in Raw mode for best possible Image-Quality and spend time on post processing for converting the images to JPGs.I would rate it higher than S5IS. See below why:http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canons5is/page6.asp.

Are you ready to consider a DSLR? Even cheapest will be better than costliest P&S on noise and performance.Best Wishes, Ajayhttp://picasaweb.google.com/ajay0612..

Comment #3

Thanks Ajay and Almonds for your reply's there are very much appreciated, I have looked at poss a SLR, but I am little daunted by the general size and all the equipment that may be needed, and I know I can pick up a used D40 at a very reasonable price..

Like everyone I am chasing the better IQ, but I think because I am no expert that I would be happy with IQ with the S5 or FZ18 as a fairly good all rounder. sorry if I may upset some people as I know SLR'S produce superior IQ, But I like the features of FD and wide angles built in with the odd video capture, hence why I am thinking of the 2 above models, unless you think a D40 may be the way to go, I am all ears......

Thanks again...Lee.w..

Comment #4

Ok ........... then i'd go with the fz18 !..

Comment #5

I'm a canon shooter (Or the years, AE-1, EOS3, D30, D60, 1DM2, G6, S3 and others including lot of film and digital Nikons, Minoltas, Olympus and even a Casio) and have been a Canon Guy for years and years. I prefer Canon as both a camera system and a company who backs thier products, over all others..

I aslo know from presonal experance that the S5 IS one of the best P&S (It truely is a bridge camera to the DSLR systems) on the market, add the excellent 430EX Canon flash and your photos will be outstanding!.

If shot in RAW and exposed correctly, the S5 photos should look nearly identical to professional DSLR, when printed up to 8x10. The lens on that camera is very good, as an amature, you'll be hard pressed to need more camera than the S5 and 430EX combo..

Only canon "L" glass will produce significantly better results. (The lens is always more important than the camera).

For an amature, a DSLR can be daunting, and it won't make you a better photographer. (But it will suck the life out of your checking account).

Keep it simple and use a Digi-Cam.Jim Bianchihttp://www.thephotoop.comDigital guru in the making...

Comment #6

Thanks Jim for your help, I have not got big bucks to lay out, and out of the fz18 and the S5 is I am sure they will perform equally as good in most areas so I dont think I can go wrong.After reading heaps of reviews and forum talk I am now leaning towards the canonS5.looking forward to getting one now !!.

Cheers everyoneLee,W..

Comment #7

If you have the sony H5, why not just put the 1758 tele on it and get the 800mm-ish zoom? I am not sure what else you are getting with the canon exept better video.tafkag.

'It came to me in a vision... a vision brighter than the sun itself'But, I over exposed and blew the highlights..

Comment #8

Hi Britney, my first thread explained my latest camera was a Sony H3 but not happy with the handling, hence I fancy a change of brand.What would you buy S5 or FZ18, for all round photography ??.

Thanks for your views and helpLee.w..

Comment #9

Do you think you would ever use the RAW capabilities. If the answer is yes then the panny is a nice camera. If no the canon is a nice camera..

All of these mega zoom P&S cameras are pretty good shooters in decent light..

The ones with the wider 28mm on the wide end are more usable in my kind of shooting. I like 28mm shots..

But you really cant go wrong with any of them. The fuji S8000 is the least expensive of the bunch. The Canon does not have as wide a lens I think but very good video.tafkag.

'It came to me in a vision... a vision brighter than the sun itself'But, I over exposed and blew the highlights..

Comment #10

Britney, I dont think I would use RAW, I really do like both camera's and like most people they are finding difficulties deciding..

The decision as we all know is do you go for wide angle shots, 18 x zoom and raw with good leica lens (panny) or hotshoe, good video with zoom, and tiltable LCD and canon's years of experience..

As I said before there are so many well qualified competent photographers who are willing to help and give guidance which us begginers are really appreciative of.

But everyone has their own opinions to what might the better camera for every different individual's own requirements..

Mine are in no particular order as they are all important..... good lanscape using fairly lenghthy zoom, indoor and outdoor shots of people, the odd fast sport shots outdoors in daylight, generally all round use. I came to a conclusion today that I would go for the s5 is, now reading more reviews it has changed to the fz 18 Just because of pure IQ quality above 100 iso, I am sure their is not much in it really , it's just we have a choice and we want to make the right one..

Does anybody know of any other comparible websites which can show shots going up the scale in iso's which can show 2 camera's side by side ??.

Thanks again for everyone's helpLee.W..

Comment #11

I've been looking at purchasing the H3. Can you tell more about why you didn't like it?..

Comment #12

There is nothing with the camera just personally after having the h5 I thought it would be a mini version of the h5 meaning I could slip it in a coat pocket for ease especially for holiday photo's easier to carry around and it does the trick fine..

I just found a little hard to handle when taking pic's especially having the zoom rocker right where your thumb goes !! also the lcd has a poor resolution, not thats the end of the world..

Everything else on the camera is first class, the IQ is good right across the range, flash gives good coverage, high quality build, brilliant battery life, good macro, face detection works well, great little camera just not for me, want to go back to longer zoom and poss having a RAW option now.I really do recommend the camera for the size of it, fantastic compact zoom.If that's what you want you wont be disappointed !!Lee.w..

Comment #13

I would advis you to stter clear of current crop of Sony P&S cameras. These use heavy compression and noise reduction leading to smearing of fine details and color tones especially at high ISOs..

Consider Canon SX100IS instead. It has slightly wider and better 10x zoom (less PP), full manual modes, automatic lens cap, and good IQ..

Lostit wrote:.

I've been looking at purchasing the H3. Can you tell more about whyyou didn't like it?.

Best Wishes, Ajayhttp://picasaweb.google.com/ajay0612..

Comment #14

Jim Bianchi wrote:.

Only canon "L" glass will produce significantly better results..

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