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40D as First DSLR???
I've been going back and forth to my local camera shops, and my first choice at a DSLR was the Oly E-510, but after further review, and further trips to the camera shops, I think I'm now leaning towards the Canon 40D..

Can you tell me why or why not the Canon 40D would be a good choice for my first DSLR? Also, can you recommend a good lens to add for around $500. I want a good all around lens to go with it. Thanks in advance, I've always gotten good advice on this forum..

Ben..

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These modern semi-pro-level cameras have Auto and Program modes so there is little need to start at entry level unless there are budgetary constraints..

To find out if it's a good choice, list what you liked particularly about the Canon 40D and disliked about the Olympus?.

Best lens for $500? Ask in the Canon forums..

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Comment #1

Benk777 wrote:.

I've been going back and forth to my local camera shops, and my firstchoice at a DSLR was the Oly E-510, but after further review, andfurther trips to the camera shops, I think I'm now leaning towardsthe Canon 40D..

Excellent choice Ben. Now, before I start giving my opinions, be nice to know what your experience with any SLR has been in the past. If you have the disposable income then, why not. If you're on a budget however (as you give a lens budget below already), read further..

Can you tell me why or why not the Canon 40D would be a good choicefor my first DSLR? Also, can you recommend a good lens to add foraround $500. I want a good all around lens to go with it. Thanks inadvance, I've always gotten good advice on this forum..

Pls spend the money on an entry-level DLSR first (400d, wait a couple months for it's successor) and the rest of your moola then goes toward a great lens/ several? Off course the body may not feel comfortable for you and hence you are chasing something larger OR from a different manufacturer..

Look, if you know what sort of photography you are aiming for (lens choice) and have enough money for the 40D and know the learning curve involved, sounds great. Myself, am still trying to get to grips with my 350D (XT)+kit+50mm+raw converters+storage options+prints. Given up on printing at home but hey, at least the monitor is hardware calibrated properly now..

Let us know about all the other stuff I mentioned and your knowledge with the peripheries..

Cheers Suby..

Comment #2

I've been going back and forth to my local camera shops, and my firstchoice at a DSLR was the Oly E-510, but after further review, andfurther trips to the camera shops, I think I'm now leaning towardsthe Canon 40D..

Why ? .

I ask because a common experience for many people is that the camera sales people steer them towards Canon or Nikon for their own purposes rather than focusing on the needs of the buyer..

I cannot help noticing the 40D is a more expensive camera. Cough. I wonder why you aren't thinking of a 400D ? .

You should pick a DSLR that feels good in your hands and you like the view out of. It should 'fit' you and seem as natural to hold as possible..

I'm not knocking the Canon or Nikon - all good ( great cameras ) but there's plenty of choice..

Can you tell me why or why not the Canon 40D would be a good choicefor my first DSLR? Also, can you recommend a good lens to add foraround $500. I want a good all around lens to go with it. Thanks inadvance, I've always gotten good advice on this forum..

I would point you towards an entry level model ( Nikon D40 or D40x, Pentax K100D or even the not really entry level K100D ( good price ) or the Canon 400D ( or an earlier 350D for a good price ). All excellent cameras which you will not out grow for years, in all likelihood. Some people never need more, even for professional work..

Entirely forget lenses. Get a kit lens or the twin kit lenses. Starting out you won't notice the difference and they are pretty good quality at a good price bundled..

When you have grown a bit more into your hobby you will have a better idea what lens you NEED that fits your shooting style. Then start looking for a lens..

If you're trying to get an all-in-one lens to start with I suggest not doing this. You're missing one of the main points of having a DSLR. Get used to using lenses, changing them, handling them, understanding their weaknesses and strengths..

The only accessories you need to start are :.

(1) extra battery set - never leave home without a spare set(2) reasonably fast memory card ( buy online - chops mark these up insanely )(3) microfibre cloth - for wiping the lens ( glass ).

(4) dust blower. You will occasionally get dust - and forget trying to avoid it. It's not a big deal and a blower will deal with almost any dust..

Save the money and use it to travel to take photos and make prints..

StephenG.

Pentax K100DFuji S5200Fuji E900PCLinuxOS..

Comment #3

Hi Ben, I want to start by addressing the 400D/XTi vs 40D suggestion that others have offered. I don't know if you have looked at the 400D but it is a good camera. I personally started with a 20D and didn't go for the Rebel line just because of the feel of the cameras but you need to decide what works for you..

As for the 40D, it is a nice camera, works very well and if it feels good to you is just fine to start with. For first lenses, this is more difficult. The best lenses are the lenses you will use. It is difficult to make a recommendation without knowing what you will primarily shoot. I think that the newest EF-S 18-55 IS is a good start. The focal length would be reasonable for landscapes, people...general photography.

You may find that you want a longer zoom or you may find that you want something even wider but without a bit more information it is very difficult to recommend much else...

Comment #4

I cannot help a lot because I am in much the same position, except my choices are the 40D, 400D and E501..

I like the 40D features but worry that it is a little heavy for a first time user. I have somewhat large hands, which love the camera, but small wrists, that don't like the weight of the camera. I'm afraid I won't want to carry it around. I also wonder if it will be too conspicuous. The price also leaves a little less money for lenses and have often read that it is better to spend money on lenses than a fancy body..

The 400D is a little more portable and leaves more money for lenses, and I could later upgrade to the 40D or 50D. To me it seems that the camera isn't necessarily better than the other entry cameras, it just has fewer downsides (D40/D40x, no focus motor, no auto bracketing, etc; K100D/K100D Super, slow and with quirky ways of doing things)..

The E510 seems to have great features for the price, a light weight body but with a fairly comfortable grip, unlike the 400D. The price is currently great. Comments about high ISO IQ and dynamic range concern me as do the slightly limited lens selection. Olympus proponents believe that the IQ/dynamic range issues are insignificant, and the lens selection is great in quality, and adequate in selection, or will shortly be..

I'd love to hear your decison...

Comment #5

Ben,.

In choosing cameras, like anything else, usually the more you pay, the more you get - features/build/performance etc. However, thats got to be balanced against what you want/need so, if you want to go down the Canon road + want Live View, 3" LCD, fast capture speed etc go for the 40D. If you don't need all it's features get something cheaper - if you want more get something more expensive (budget permitting)..

Just to make it trickier, sometimes extra features like IS are found on cheaper models such as E-510 so "you've got to consider what you really want" - would you get IS from lens etc? We can't help you there + it's you who'll be spending the money..

Possible after purchase thoughts could help though - would you rather feel:-.

1. I got the perfect camera for me/my budget2. I should have got a better camera3. Could I have got away with a cheaper one?.

Obviously "1" would be ideal - of the other options see which you'd like to avoid and therefore err towards the other one in your choice - personally I think (budget permitting) I'd prefer to err towards "3" but other people could vary..

Don't have any specific knowledge of Canon lenses but from specs a good all round lens for approx $500 could be the Sigma AF 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS..

So, I've not told you why or why not the 40D is a good choice for your 1st DSLR - as only you can decide that - but hope I've been of some help!.

Happy Christmas.

Caster.

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Comment #6

What do you mean not really entry level K100D? because it's cheap?..

Comment #7

One lens to consider is the 17-85IS. I have seen packages of it and the 40D for $1499...

Comment #8

The 40D is just as easy to use as any other DSLR - and just as hard. You won't get great images on your first day because there is a terrific amount to learn - but there is no DSLR which that is not equally true of. Some have suggested the 400D (which I have) because it is 'entry level' and cheaper, but that *doesn't* make it any more suitable for a beginner, you still have exactly the same basic controls and exactly the same learning process..

I do have a lot of empathy with your position - I'm never happy with a 'second best' tool, I prefer to have nothing at all until I have the means to buy what I really want. In the long term that tends to mean I keep things longer and spend less overall...

Comment #9

Either choice is a fine camera. As for lenses, check the Canon/Oly site..

You also may fine some nice info here:.

Http://www.robgalbraith.com/.

And here:.

Http://www.fredmiranda.com/.

I'm not a Canon guy, I'm sure there are other sites too. Have fun.

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Comment #10

Benk777 wrote:.

I've been going back and forth to my local camera shops, and my firstchoice at a DSLR was the Oly E-510, but after further review, andfurther trips to the camera shops, I think I'm now leaning towardsthe Canon 40D..

Can you tell me why or why not the Canon 40D would be a good choicefor my first DSLR? Also, can you recommend a good lens to add foraround $500. I want a good all around lens to go with it. Thanks inadvance, I've always gotten good advice on this forum..

Sure, the 40d has better AF and tracking than all the entry level bodies the other posts have mentioned. It also has live view which is nice for some macro and tele applications. While is seems like a relatively new body and does have current technology the 40d will probably be replaced by a new body in 2008 (just my guess, I have no firm intel on this)..

I always recommend lens that I call life time keepers; by this I mean even if you are buying a camera 5-10 years from now if it will mount an EF lens you will still like the lens. I also have a bias towards primes, so I would recommend the Canon 85mm/1.8. The 85mm is well under your price range and is a great lens for lots of applications. It is also a very fast lens which means you can get away with shooting without a flash. I would also recommend the 70-200 zoom; but it will run a little more..

As others have said you should come up with a budget and try and write down specifically what type of photography you want to do. There are tons of other bodies at lower cost that may well be a better fit for your needs; and the same goes for lens. But IMHO the 40d is an easier camera to get better IQ with than stuff like the xti, or the Nikon or Oly entery level cameras (mainly due to better AF and cleaner hi ISO). On the other hand I have a Sigma sd14 I use almost exclusively for macros (where I always shoot MF with a flash so the Sigma weakness in those areas are not a factor) because I get better IQ than with my 40d. But the 40d beats the pants off almost anything for BIF with my 500/f4 because the crop factor gives me extra reach compared to my 1d2. But the 1d2 on my 400/5.6 is my first choice for close fast action in good light; like BIF in a clear sky that are real close..

The point being that your subject and shooting style are very important in selecting the right body. If you can come with some of the subjects you want to shoot most and the conditions you will be shooting under it will be much easier to select the best body..

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